Maho CNC Conversion: THE MOVIE!!

2021 3 فوریه
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Get that popcorn ready because It's finally here!
The Maho milling machine conversion all the kids are talking about!
Watch the whole thing... or... skip to the section you're interested in:
00:00 video starts here
00:51 video REALLY starts here
02:31 axis conversion overview
08:20 converted performance (rapids & speeds)
10:56 machine health & general inspection (geometric)
16:08 new CNC control add-ons
17:40 3-axis MPG
19:18 electronic tool setter
21:13 control/electrical cabinet (drives, VFD, hydraulics, oiler, relays, etc.)
23:40 servo drives wiring & I/O
24:45 AC Servos & Drives (Leadshine)
26:16 EtherCAT AC servo pricing & kits
27:22 Element-CNC industrial control PC
27:36 KINGSTAR realtime motion control
30:32 Open-Loop vs Closed-Loop for dummies, by dummies
34:34 Servo Tuning for dummies, by dummies
48:00 the end?
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Music used in this video:
Bolereando - Quincas Moreira

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  • Tony - your comedic timing, writing, editing skills, and expertise as a maker are all things I aspire to achieve even a small fraction of one day. Hats off to my all-time favorite youtube creator, I'm sure you've no idea how many people you have inspired.

    JeSuisNerdJeSuisNerdپیش 4 ساعت
  • Damn lol I learned more than I ever thought I would on this topic hats off to you as well 👍

    Joel MooreJoel Mooreپیش 7 ساعت
  • That was a great video.

    Nick BarnettNick Barnettپیش 7 ساعت
  • Every time you say Linux CNC Physicsanonymous shivers

    Daniel DavisDaniel Davisپیش 8 ساعت
  • Oh cool, I work for SKF. Great video!

    alden allenalden allenپیش 9 ساعت
  • is there a ball caught in the white plastic on top of the screw around 5:41 ? sounded like there were not enough balls inside or too much space in between, same as the bicycle I inherited in 1985 and which had extremely worn balls in the ball bearings

    Emil Nicolaie PerhinschiEmil Nicolaie Perhinschiپیش 11 ساعت
  • I'm a complete novice and most of what you say is above my pay grade. But you have an addictive way of explaining things that compels me to watch every video you release multiple times. So well done TOT you steal a lot of my IRworld surfing time but wouldn't have it any other way. Keep doing whatever you are doing (don't fully understand it but it looks and sounds impressive) And I look forward to the next video, whatever the subject matter is.

    GJ LocksGJ Locksپیش 13 ساعت
  • Awesome stuff Tony! 😃👍🏻👊🏻..... "Coincidentally" wearing my TOT hoodie and t-shirt while watching! ✏️❤️👕

    Fred McIntyreFred McIntyreپیش 17 ساعت
  • I really enjoyed this video, thanks

    Frankie BouchardFrankie Bouchardپیش 22 ساعت
  • Million subscribers yet?

    sanitarium0114sanitarium0114پیش روز
  • Was that an electric chair joke in the beginning there Tony.

    ShotgunsamShotgunsamپیش روز
  • This was a good video Toe no doubt....cool huh... If I ever find the money and time to acquire a decent monarch 10EE I'm going to approach it like a refurbishment because it's a metal machining tool.... buying one new requires super careful preparation can you imagine purchasing a used one that you have no knowledge of its usage in the past or the users knowledge of the neccessary upkeep and calibration standards.... that block set ol' Toe here brakes out to qualify his milling early on by itself is definitely a must have and $1100 used and sorry but u don't buy "used" calibration equipment. U can i guess but it will not be standardized so, then you will have to send it out for calibration which will cost more money. I can tell my boy here knows this. Yeah, I'm eager to start doing that 10EE. Getting one and getting it functioning and looking better than I could have imagined would be so exhilarating for me because I haven't ever met another human being that is a good person so I have to do shit myself because if i left it up to the scum bag mf i have to share my world with they would lead me to believe i wasn't capable and they want me to send my children around them and destroy them too. My oldest daughter was tricked and they murdered my first son but, i promise they won't take my son and baby girl People don't change you are right it's just me man just me I'm the only one who changes

    Adam BlanchardAdam Blanchardپیش روز
  • As good as you are with this stuff, it's harder than stopping biting your nails. Paint em with flat clear it worker for me.

    Stevie G.Stevie G.پیش روز
  • Tony if you want to ballbar your machine to see the accuracy with a Renishaw let me know.

    xtry511xtry511پیش 2 روز
  • Just discovered this channel (as in Mar, 2021). Eating up the content like warm beer nuts. Really has me questioning my life's choices.

    Russ IvesRuss Ivesپیش 2 روز
  • So much words??. No subscrib

    gamer progamer proپیش 2 روز
  • Dont takk just make.we undrstand

    gamer progamer proپیش 2 روز
  • is your Y axes issues from the shaft "buckling" in the one direction. It would account for why it is one direction and not the other. Is the head pretty tight in the dovetails?

    Sean DaySean Dayپیش 3 روز
  • Hey Tony, I'm an employee of IntervalZero. It was great to see someone use our product for personal use! Our product is so far down in the chain of production I rarely ever get to see anything physical come of it!

    Chris VaroneChris Varoneپیش 3 روز
  • 5:24 the crunch sound is from the white plastic pipe rubbing on the metal hose in the background, if you mean this sound, I dont hear anything else

    D PD Pپیش 4 روز
  • @This Old Tony, is it me (or maybe an optical illusion) or does your y-screw look like its not parallel to the ways @5:30 into the video?

    Koen van der laanKoen van der laanپیش 4 روز
  • how much is the the oval ball field in metrics. Because there is no point of translating freedom units to metrics, if you don't explain the distance of your hand egg field size.

    ponakkaponakkaپیش 5 روز
  • That's not bad Tony. When I say that's not bad, I mean it.

    XGalaxy4UXGalaxy4Uپیش 6 روز
  • Love the 3 axis MPG. almost certainly going to make one for myself.

    adcurtinadcurtinپیش 7 روز
  • Your freaking cut-away visuals are the best freaking part of these videos. The subtlety and humor is fantastic.

    ajhatti2011ajhatti2011پیش 7 روز
  • Well if my lathe breaks down I know who to call. Lemme know if you have a transmission go out in your truck.

    ajhatti2011ajhatti2011پیش 7 روز
  • your Y nut is missing balls

    Nicolas AudouardNicolas Audouardپیش 8 روز
  • When Tony first started this project (and I know nothing about any of this) I thought, “Oh cool”. And then, months later, I was like, “whatever happened to that Maho project?” Holy moly, now I see why. Way more complicated than it looks. What a project.

    David LewisDavid Lewisپیش 8 روز
  • Pure overindulgance in precision cutting makes me high. So i must buy a mill, my Lord.

    Danny THE DogDanny THE Dogپیش 8 روز
  • Oh boy!!!! TOYS!!!!!

    NUMB SKULLNUMB SKULLپیش 8 روز
  • I love the subtle dad jokes!

    guerilla2013guerilla2013پیش 9 روز
  • so what was causing the bearing noise? did not see you fix it.

    Max HeadroomMax Headroomپیش 9 روز
  • "Feel free to skip if you want" OF COURSE I will skip several times. But BACKWARDS. There are some jokes so good I love listening to them several times. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 BEST. CHANNEL. EVER. ❤️❤️❤️

    Cristian Sánchez FurióCristian Sánchez Furióپیش 9 روز
  • I have an idea for the problem you are running with the Y axis. The ball thread has one slide to the side of it (the whole slide of the head), causing it to bend in one direction thus being super unhealthy for these bearings. How about putting an extra bearing in a strong housing that is set to take on these forces? Or better yet give it a 'second slide' that Will counter the pull from the Main y axis slide.

    johnym89johnym89پیش 9 روز
  • The Maho green is called machinery green in Germany and the color code is RAL6011 not RAWR! ;-)

    kirkdiskirkdisپیش 9 روز
  • Those of us who have never been to a football field can't imagine it

    EnnarEnnarپیش 9 روز
  • Ok........great video......as usual!!! Ok......and i m not to smart..........b u t.......WHAT THE HECK DOES ......MAHO.....stand for..??????

    Beach RoadBeach Roadپیش 9 روز
  • I didn't even realise it was a 48 minute video lol watched from start to finish and enjoyed every bit.

    Josiah VJosiah Vپیش 9 روز
  • Tony, do you know what max RPM you have seen from these servos? Do you ever get close to the 3000rpm limit for the ones you have?

    Mike HMike Hپیش 10 روز
  • ❤️ from India 🇮🇳

    suyog sanglesuyog sangleپیش 10 روز
  • Servos to the ribcage help with safety. Dangerous workspaces need bruising agents to remind you to watch yourself.

    Nathan QuinlanNathan Quinlanپیش 10 روز
  • Please do a gas spring video that would be amazing.

    Man PuttyMan Puttyپیش 10 روز
  • I still fondly remember the FANUC servo-tuning "blip" sound from my days working on CNC machines. Also, I now happily spend my days no longer working on CNC machines.

    Spencer CallahanSpencer Callahanپیش 11 روز
  • Does she still speak with a German accent?

    MAKGAMAKGAپیش 11 روز
  • Super Awesomeness again, as Always!!

    Daniel LopezDaniel Lopezپیش 11 روز
  • I'd buy the Maho OnlyFans

    JustinJustinپیش 11 روز
  • !

    diggerman19diggerman19پیش 11 روز
  • Might want to add some movement locking switches or some sort of "dead-man" type switch to the MPG cube. I'm sure it's mostly fine, but I'd be worried if any freak vibrations on the table causing an MPG to move when it shouldn't. Or worse; something goes wrong and the cube is knocked off of the table, it hits the floor, the mpgs spin and send all the axes in random directions, your work is ruined, your tool explodes, the spindle is slammed into your vice and bends, and worse; you have to bring your router back while you spend a few months fixing the Maho.

    Grey PaladinGrey Paladinپیش 11 روز
  • The difference in surface finish is most likley because one of the sides is climb milling (nice side) and The other side is conventional milling. I suspect it wont go away compleatly, unfortuneatly.

    Robin ForslundRobin Forslundپیش 11 روز
  • Industrial electrician sees this and is beyond extremely impressed. Same guy looks at that panel and is utterly horrified! Get it sorted out man! Great channel definitely subscribing, just promise never to show me in there again!

    Calum MackayCalum Mackayپیش 12 روز
  • 19:00 So are you going to add haptic feedback for the machine loads? Then it would really feel like manual jogging...

    Roger BarraudRoger Barraudپیش 12 روز
  • Tram (apparently) is the parallelism within the x-axis. But NOD is the parallelism within the y-axis.

    TrumanHWTrumanHWپیش 12 روز
  • From start to finish, how long did it take to make this video?

    AttractspsychosAttractspsychosپیش 12 روز
  • That ballnut replacement @5:18... Is it me or the crunchy sound also matches up with the metal wire harness grinding against the plastic tube rings... There is also a solid ground groove from the contact grind in the plastic tube...

    MihkelMihkelپیش 12 روز
  • I would never think to skip around on your videos.

    AttractspsychosAttractspsychosپیش 12 روز
  • Man the strange ticking you were hearing at the start of the video were the two pipes sliding one over the other, around 5:25, look right

    SimoX04_ YTSimoX04_ YTپیش 12 روز
  • Very, VERY informative! Thanks TOT for having taken what is surely a TON of time to put this all together.

    Ken RussKen Russپیش 12 روز
  • Tony, you had me chuckling all through this. Keep up the humor, it makes learning about machining so enjoyable. Cheers!

    CastloaderCastloaderپیش 12 روز
  • I think that the crunching noise on the Y axis ball screw nut is caused by a misalignment, it makes that sound only when the bearing block is going towards the machine, that causes to bend even more and to destroy the ball screw nut

    Eragon PowerEragon Powerپیش 13 روز
  • You’ve gotta be careful when working with dehydrated steel. A mate of mine didn’t have his coolant mix right and the piece expanded by 20x, he hasn’t been the same since

    CheeseGuru101CheeseGuru101پیش 13 روز
  • That machine sounds as bad as I feel

    Systems PlanetSystems Planetپیش 13 روز
  • Why a Mach based controller and not a commercial controller and software?

    JDJDپیش 13 روز
  • "...but it can become a rabbit hole if you keep thinkin' you could just get a little bit better." Truer words never spoken!

    David MarcusDavid Marcusپیش 13 روز
  • 11:35 had me in a fit of laughter hahahaha

    yeah nah yeahyeah nah yeahپیش 14 روز
    • Scratch that the whole lot did hahaha

      yeah nah yeahyeah nah yeahپیش 14 روز
  • This Old Tony relly blows my mind! Where are you based out of?

    Way's CoatingsWay's Coatingsپیش 14 روز
    • Just a heads up I was a machine builder for American Broach and built alot fof the CNC Broach Sharpeners and I might have some insight for your ball screw problems too. We need to Colab !!

      Way's CoatingsWay's Coatingsپیش 14 روز
  • Tony, I have been enjoying your various machine projects. And do a nice job explaining/how-do. This might be the first time I popped 😳 a comment. If you're interested, for some good add on's to automate, for your machinery. Have you ever heard of Direct Automation 🤔. Check out this company. One day, we should chat together.

    Keith MonarchKeith Monarchپیش 14 روز
  • What did i just watch I'm sure it was some guy talking about a big green machine that does some sort of wizardry with metal

    Gary StewartGary Stewartپیش 14 روز
  • I love me some long format Tony.

    Tony_in_PATony_in_PAپیش 14 روز
  • Don't worry Tony. I watched the whole video. I even rewatched some of it because i kept getting distracted.

    CenturionPlaysCenturionPlaysپیش 14 روز
  • Hiya

    William T. MusilWilliam T. Musilپیش 14 روز
  • Don't worry about dove tail ways unless you have to hold .001 tolerances I operated a nc bridge port in the 70s with dove tail ways. no big deal Since then I operated and maintained 14 different cnc's . 13 had box ways, and I could hold .00005 tolerance on grade 2 titanium on a Takasawa lathe . We had Mazak mills and Lathes and Yams too.The only machine with ball ways was a Swedish drill press with 54 x 72 in travel. Are you Canadian because you work in metric? I still have not changed over. The ball screw clicking could be that you do not have double ball nuts face to face preloaded apart. This eliminates any backlash and some ball nuts takes one directional load only. The ball screws were anchored at each end with double angle contact bearings . to keep the screw from flexing. We would take 2in thick 304l stainless plate clamp it on two inche copper parallels so it would not slip also to allow for the chips to clear the cut.Chips and heat are your enemy! Drill a 1in hole thru the plate and use a 1 dia x 2.25 in corncob end mill all the way thru the plate . 200 rpm and 2in of feed full depth to make this plate into a doughnut shape. Did this for 39 years. Corn cob cutters are the best,1st rule of milling always climb cut, 2nd rule of milling always climb cut, 3rd rule of milling never conventional cut Use double ball nuts face to face preloaded and double angle contact bearings at both ends of lead screw. Have a good day.

    Greg RanboGreg Ranboپیش 14 روز
  • Where did you get those gas shocks? Need a pair for my 100 year old mill. The table weighs around 500 lbs at least. Needs help going up. Have to buy a 2hp motor just to move it. Got a car steering wheel on it now. The base the table rides on is huge. The table 32inch and can move 38 inch left or right because of the huge base it's on. And no the ways aren't over tightened.

    John ScottJohn Scottپیش 15 روز
  • connector is a dbhd44. better than a db13w3 i guess.

    RedFathomRedFathomپیش 15 روز
  • The cause of the .0001 drop is what is causing your Y axis to chew up.

    caphenningcaphenningپیش 16 روز
  • Hey Tony, what camera or cameras do you use to record your videos?

    Paul KepnerPaul Kepnerپیش 16 روز
  • Hey Tony, it almost looks like the y-axis crunch sound is being caused by those two hoses rubbing together! Just a thought!

    Aaron WestbrookAaron Westbrookپیش 16 روز
  • Good job you can make an Chuck

    مصطفى اللجيمصطفى اللجيپیش 16 روز
  • Hi Old Tony, when you cutting a cycle cw the mill behaves like conversational milling because the left side cuts more material, and when cut a cycle ccw the mill is behave like climb milling because the right side cuts more material, I thing this is the reason you see different finish in the s type groove

    Drimaropoylos IoannisDrimaropoylos Ioannisپیش 16 روز
  • @ThisOldTony I'm not sure if you were joking, but at 5:23 you can see there is a tube rubbing against another in the back, making the crunching sounds you mentioned

    Eduardo RojasEduardo Rojasپیش 17 روز
  • love this.

    delmar93delmar93پیش 18 روز
  • While printing cases for the buttons you could create embossed names/descriptions for the buttons on the 3D model :)

    TheDarmachTheDarmachپیش 18 روز
  • I watched this in two sittings...

    Fugly JoeFugly Joeپیش 19 روز
  • Can't help but notice those Chinese Leadshine ELP-750 Ethercat drives are already gone or hard to get.

    Captain MotherCaptain Motherپیش 19 روز
    • It's hard to tell with Chinese knock-off EtherCat stuff...I've heard good things (cheap) and horror stories (had to replace after a few months, weird firmware bugs, motor bearing failures etc.). I'm sure Tony will tell us if it's breaking down over time. It's always suspicious when you see this stuff being hawked on eBay, AliExpress, etc. Hopefully it will all work great for him. Thanks for nice video!!

      John AndersonJohn Andersonپیش 18 روز
  • Weren't you having issues with the y axis essentially right after you got it? Could there be a underlying issue with the u axis that's causing the ball nut to break?

    David WellsDavid Wellsپیش 19 روز
  • Honestly Tony, hearing you find your voice, grow more comfortable in your videos, and learning so much from you, has been awesome. :D

    RazielTheBooRazielTheBooپیش 19 روز
  • Fantastic video. A bit more on servos.. Not all of them have batteries. The reason that servo has a battery is because it has an absolute encoder (this is how it can "remember" its position through a powercycle.) Some servos, like Allen-Bradley servos, use an incremental encoder but rely on the controller to maintain reference. In the machinery I work with on a daily basis, German paper converting equipment, there are many servo-driven elements. Since they're using incremental encoders, we have reference sensors on particular parts of the machine that the controller uses to "home" an axis. I've recently started watching your videos regularly and I'm really impressed with the amount of information you're relaying to the audience. I've learned a ton from you and I really appreciate the content. I've decided it's time to get a mill myself and stop using the ones at work for home projects. Originally, I wanted to get a CNC mill but the more I watch your videos and a few others on IRworld, I think I'd be better off getting a manual mill and adding CNC capability. This video may very well have catalyzed that idea. Thanks again for the great information and the laughs!

    Brett SpillmanBrett Spillmanپیش 19 روز
  • those are tapered gibs your y axis has there those can tighten up under motion if they have some play. now they should have either one screw pushing on either side which is a system that pretty much eliminates play in the gib but most of the time, for ease of use, they have one screw that fits into a groove to push the gib in and out ant if some part of that is worn the gib has some play to tighten up under load and screw up a ball screw in one way only

    Demian MarcathDemian Marcathپیش 19 روز
    • gliding ways can also work in rapid back and forth motion pretty well if they're lubricated enough, which they likely are in this case. still, scraping the ways can go a long way in keeping the oil on the ways under rapid motion. don't worry about the geometry, it should be finde the way it is and just a few crossing scrapes every half an inch is enough for those chonky guideways

      Demian MarcathDemian Marcathپیش 19 روز
  • Tony, do you know if your motion control system is driving those servo drives with step/direction or in torque mode with 0-10v inputs for speed and torque?

    Hugh FraterHugh Fraterپیش 19 روز
  • Those leadshine servos are tiny - amazing. I've a ton of experience with the Lichuan ones, they're fantastic value, I think we pay around $250 for a 750w drive and motor package.

    Hugh FraterHugh Fraterپیش 19 روز
  • 11:35 When you got to tell your folks some bad news.

    ckid slagckid slagپیش 20 روز
  • Question, has MAHO called and asked for their machine back? :)

    Stephen FerrellStephen Ferrellپیش 20 روز
  • 5:21, If you pay close attention, you will see the sleaf ripple against the hydraulic-line... just saying

    BullofMagTime 3DBullofMagTime 3Dپیش 20 روز
  • Did I just watch a 48 minutes long video about some cnc machine?

    KillerkoUKKillerkoUKپیش 20 روز
  • Hey Tonny! Isn't that weird sound in 5:37 a sound of a steel thingy rubbing on white plastic thingy?

    crazzo PLcrazzo PLپیش 20 روز
  • My mechanic training is nearly a decade old, I am not good at electrics and useless with electronics, yet I've enjoyed the whole thing (though my two braincells went "nope!" for the electronic part) !

    desert_jindesert_jinپیش 20 روز
  • I sure miss This Old Tony. Nice that the new CNC guy kept the same hands and voice, though....

    dcw56dcw56پیش 21 روز
  • THIS OLD IS THIS OLD TONY I FELL IN 🖤 WITH! welcome back misterMR

    i992dci992dcپیش 21 روز
  • do you want your conduit wire opening to fill with chips? Cover them up....

    Joe DonohueJoe Donohueپیش 21 روز
  • So who are the two others that made it to the end?(; I love these longer videos there just so packed right to the tippy top with information. And it’s the good stuff too, not like the crap you see on the news.

    Keith’s GarageKeith’s Garageپیش 22 روز
  • That was incredible Tony. I have no idea what you're talking about and yet I enjoyed every minute. I have attempted to watch "gone with the wind" (oh Ashley, oh Ashley) a couple of times but given up before the end! Not with this video! I am the 4th person to watch it all. I even think I could fool someone into thinking I know the difference between savoury and fruit loops! Thank you for making me a better person 💝😘

    Tim PiggottTim Piggottپیش 22 روز
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